Re : Question about one of the vowel

[BiBuBiBu]

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I don't understand why when using the vowel Í× we have to add a consonant Í behind, such as Á×Í ¶×Í .....
Actually, there are only a few words in this form and Í is not an ending consonant. I just want to know, if there is any, the reason why?
Thanks for any reply.

[mikenz66]

I don't know why, but one useful thing that is worth noting about some of these little details is that it makes it easier to read. If you see Á×Í you can tell it is not ÁÔÍ without straining your eyes. Similar for àÍÕ and àÍ×Í.

[DanD]

We could use Í× is just a sound, and is used in fact in some cartoons. ÍÖÍÖ Is more common I think, but I think I've seen a few artists use Í×.

Í×Í = yeah, sure, right adds the Í because it is a particular word (not just a weird sound).

[mikenz66]

Dan, my understanding is that the Í should always be added if there is no ending consonant, so you have ª×èÍ but ¡Å×¹. See http://thai-language.com/default.aspx?ref=vowels for example. This change in vowel forms depending on whether they are at the end of a syllable or not was something that really confused me when I started

[TK]

I agree with Mike, to use ÊÃÐÍ×Í without the Í at the end is not correct.

Anyway, I think I have seen something similar in the cartoons but they are either ÍÔÍÔ or ÍÖÍÖ which is a sound of 'crafty laugh'.

[BiBuBiBu]

I don't understand because with all other ÊÃÐà´ÕèÂÇ we don't need to add Í behind? as ÁÕ instead of ÁÕÍ, ¼Ô instead of ¼ÔÍ ....
Anyway thanks to all.

[Betti]

to me it looks like another rule without explanation or reason. it's just the way it is.
it drives 6-year-old Thais nuts, all these "split" and composite vowels, to say the least. we adults are at least capable of grasping such complex ideas....

[mikenz66]

As Betti says, that's probably just the way it is. As I implied earlier, there's not much reason for the endings on àÍÕ and àÍ×Í either, but it actually makes them easier to read, if you have difficulty seeing the little "sticks" that poke up out of the vowel.

[DanD]

Yes, their aren't any words with Í× that don't have another consonant following it. They are however comicbook, cartoon, and written sounds that use Í×æææ not the same context as that laugh ÍÔÍÔ ÍÖÍÖ ËÖËÖ which I see all the time. It does exsist!

[TK]

Thanks Dan for let me know that nowaday they use this kind of spelling in comics, suppose it's the same when people use them in their blogs. Oh Well, I suppose I am getting too old now , last time I read Kai Hua Roh was over 5 years ago, forgot that they did use incorrect/supposedly-fashionable spelling but then there were only ÍèÐ »Ð ´Ô etc, no Í× without Í then .