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    Re: Broken-hearts are normal.

    Quote Originally Posted by guyza View Post
    R.E Broken-hearts are normal.

    PCLEV.... What an awesome piece of writing!!! It sure is good to read something like that to put ones own life into perspective. I think alot of us have been burnt before by gold diggers and control freaks. A well written post.
    A good chunk of the human race is made up of gold diggers and control freaks.

    Every where you turn there is someone looking to part you and your money. The basis of taxation is based on that premise. They say it's for your benefit but you will be lucky to see a fraction of that money ever again.

    And, why do you think most people go into politics, not to serve the public good, that's for sure.

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    Re: Broken-hearts are normal.

    The simple fact is in the vast majority of Thai farang relationships, farangs are seen by Thai woman as a free meal ticket and the sooner the farang man realizes this, he will not spend any money on the Thai woman until she has proven her self to not be a gold digger. The best way to ashore she is not a gold digger, is to go for a Thai woman who earns a good living and make shore she contributes financially to the relationship. If your lucky enough to find a woman like this, you may become very happy. Good luck on your search.

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    Re: Broken-hearts are normal.

    Quote Originally Posted by Uptoyou
    It should be added, however, that just like in other countries, many Thai women end up betrayed and abandoned by the men who initially seemed so kind, and gentle and had a good heart.
    I agree: wonderful balance. I have personal knowlege of other Thai women that have chased dreams and ended up as married prostitutes to men of the worst kind. It truly does work both ways.

    Quote Originally Posted by Betti
    I think there are many more communication traps in an intercultural relationship
    Man, isn't that the truth. I think in the end, though, what makes a relationship run is the "feeling" of the relationship.
    i.e. I "feel" eveyday how much my wife loves and supports me. When something is said that does not fit, then I automatically give her the benefit of the doubt. Eyes, touch, and actions can speak volumes of truth, whereas words really can cloud what is actually true. This should apply to inter-racial and uni-racial marriages alike. If it feels bad; it probably is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anatta
    ...man who married with smart lady like Hillary Diane Rodham became to be president of the USA.

    Bill Clinton smart to marrying Hillary (or vice-versa): We will agree to disagree. I can only measure success/smart/happiness with my own limits.
    Since Bill left the White House they generally live in different houses. He has had "sex" with other women and not his wife: One wonders why.

    Quote Originally Posted by paul-au
    ...free meal ticket and the sooner the farang man realizes this, he will not spend any money on the Thai woman until she has proven her self to not be a gold digger.
    Paul obviously plans to take his vast wealth into the next life.

    Money does speak a degree of love in Thailand; because it is their custom.
    Being a smart steward of money is a Western/Christian custom.

    Most men (paul excluded) can find the balance of showing a willingness to support his wife during courtship (which leads into marriage) and making sound finiancial decisions. Thai women especially need a sense that their husbands will be an adaquate means of support while she cares for the kids. All of that is normal and not in the least "gold-digging."

    The really good women (like my wife) do not like a cheapscape and still respect a man with common sense. It gave me great pleasure to spoil my wife when we were dating and the pleasure has continued since our marriage.
    It is not rocket science.
    Last edited by pclev; 25-09-07 at 11:43 PM.
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    Re: Broken-hearts are normal.

    Quote Originally Posted by pclev View Post

    Bill Clinton smart to marrying Hillary (or vice-versa): We will agree to disagree. I can only measure success/smart/happiness with my own limits.
    Since Bill left the White House they generally live in different houses. He has had "sex" with other women and not his wife: One wonders why.

    By respect in every man's measure in success, smart and happiness that couldn't compare.

    But let's see..Hillary married with Clinton even he was poorer than her on that time....

    - And see..She hasn't left him and still stay nearside of her husband even he made wrong thing and hurt her mind.


    With honestly, I think Thaksin Chinnawatre also has very nice wife too...He also be one smart and brilliant man.. But he just used it in the wrong way.


    This means they can find good wife for his life or not ? Is this one good quality of smart man ?
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    Re: Broken-hearts are normal.

    This is one of those time that it is important to remember that Hillary Clinton is a Western Woman that wants to become the President of the United States.

    She is not a Thai woman that will stand by her husband because of a great love. She does not usually live with her husband; that is not still married in America.

    Bill Clinton was educated at Harvard University and was a Road Scholar for serveral years; so I would not label him as terribly poor.

    If Hilliary was a divorced woman in America, then she would have no hope of ever being the first woman President. Personally I would like to see Condolissa Rice as the First Woman President. If you need a strong Western Woman to act as a role molel; I would reccomend her instead of Hillary.

    If Hillary does not win the Presidency, then I do not think her marriage will last over a year or two more.

    I will agree with you about PM Thaksin when the courts agrees with you (which they have not yet). Yes...I think that PM Thaksin's wife is wonderful and he was very smart to win her heart.
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    Re: Broken-hearts are normal.

    Quote Originally Posted by pclev View Post

    Paul obviously plans to take his vast wealth into the next life.

    Well so long as I out live my mother, no other relative will get a cent, I will be spending a few million dollars on a monument to my self, berried in a chamber under the monument will be my 1977 A9X SS Torana race car, valued at a few hundred thousand dollars, the car needs to be put to good use, I will be layed inside the car.

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    Re: Broken-hearts are normal.

    Quote Originally Posted by pclev View Post
    This is one of those time that it is important to remember that Hillary Clinton is a Western Woman that wants to become the President of the United States.

    She is not a Thai woman that will stand by her husband because of a great love. She does not usually live with her husband; that is not still married in America.

    Bill Clinton was educated at Harvard University and was a Road Scholar for serveral years; so I would not label him as terribly poor.
    But I think that Hillary accepted to marry with him because her real love. And this is ok for -When time passed , everything can changing, also with 2 persons' love and heart. For every married or lover couples who ended with broke down and diviorce, maybe it is n't good much for blamed other one to be wrong person.

    Personelly, I think every ladies must have a dream to married with good man who she love, and have happiness life together until die, by without divorce. And for some Thai ladies who cheat, prefer to rip money and not good with her boyfriend or husband, it's be like that because she's a kind of person like that. Not because of she is Thai lady or have Thai blood. Can you understand ?

    Before ending, I typed .." I belive that smart man must know how to find good wife for himselve" because by my noticed in many smart men who would love to be family man's married life (not include independant and smart man who love in funny and freedom) , such like my smarttest king Bhumiphol , my dad ,Taksin, prime minister Surayud...etc. It's looks like that.

    But with respectful, this is just my personal opinion. And maybe it's not always true....since married life isn't the easy life.
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    Re: Broken-hearts are normal.

    Anatta,

    Your writing is honest and true. I enjoy reading it very much. Thank you.
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    Re: Broken-hearts are normal.

    I wish I could understand what Anatta is saying. I think she is saying not all Thai ladies are bad and many Thai ladies are good, but I think she is saying all Thai woman want money from a man. That not sound good to me.

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    Re: Broken-hearts are normal.

    Quote Originally Posted by paul_au View Post
    but I think she is saying all Thai woman want money from a man. That not sound good to me.
    So sorry if my texts made you understand like thayt..But with honestly, I've never said like this before.
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