why so slow

[FaranginPhetch]

It was 3 minutes from the time I pushed the new thread button til it loaded this page.
Always over 1 and up to 3 minutes from the time I select a thread in the menu until it loads it,, and this is the slowest site on my PC, I have other forums that load almost instantly, altho I know it is not all this sites fault as I am in Thailand with a Thai ISP. and I only pay about $50.00 us a month [1545 baht]..

[David_Loves_Ubonwan]

Maybe something to do with the major internet cable which was broken just off Egypt a few days ago? This is a major connecting cable into Egypt and the Middle East with onward connections to India and Thailand.

David

[nam phyyng]

Slow down here too. Not compered with FiP, but still much slower than usual.

[David_Loves_Ubonwan]

New cable cut compounds net woes

The first cut caused widespread disruption to net services
A submarine cable in the Middle East has been snapped, adding to global net problems caused by breaks in two lines under the Mediterranean on Wednesday.
The Falcon cable, owned by a firm which operates another damaged cable, led to a "critical" telecom breakdown, according to one local official.

The cause of the latest break has not been confirmed but a repair ship has been deployed, said owner Flag Telecom.

The earlier break disrupted service in Egypt, the Middle East and India.

"The situation is critical for us in terms of congestion," Omar Sultan, chief executive of Dubai's ISP DU, told The Associated Press, following the most recent break.

Wednesday's incident caused disruption to 70% of the nationwide internet network in Egypt on Wednesday, while India suffered up to 60% disruption.

Flag Telecom said a repair ship was expected to arrive at the site of the first break - 8.3km from Alexandria in Egypt - on 5 February, with repair work expected to take a week.

A repair ship deployed to the second break - 56km from Dubai - was expected to arrive at the site in the "next few days", the firm said.

Web returns

The first cable - the Fiber-Optic Link Around the Globe (FLAG) - was cut at 0800 on 30 January, the firm said.

INSIDE A SUBMARINE CABLE

1 Polyethylene cover
2,4 Stranded steel armour wires
3,5 Tar-soaked nylon yarn
6 Polycarbonate insulator
7 Copper sheath
8 Protective core
9 Optical fibres
Not to scale

A second cable thought to lie alongside it - SEA-ME-WE 4, or the South East Asia-Middle East-West Europe 4 cable - was also split.

FLAG is a 28,000km (17,400 mile) long submarine communications cable that links Australia and Japan with Europe via India and the Middle East.

SEA-ME-WE 4 is a submarine cable linking South East Asia to Europe via the Indian subcontinent and the Middle East.

The two cable cuts meant that the only cable in service connecting Europe to the Middle East via Egypt was the older Sea-M-We 3 system, according to research firm TeleGeography.

The firm said the cuts reduced the amount of available capacity on the stretch of network between India and Europe by 75% percent.

As a result, carriers in Egypt and the Middle East re-routed their European traffic around the globe, through South East Asia and across the Pacific and Atlantic oceans.

The cause of the break has still not been confirmed. The third break is unlikely to disrupt commerce in the region as many business are closed on Fridays.

Initial reports suggested that it could have been snapped by a ship's anchor.

Internet service providers said they expected India's to be back to about 80% of its usual speed by the end of Friday.

In Egypt Minister of Communications and Information Technology Tarek Kamil said he expected to be at the same capacity within two days.

"However, it's not before ten days until the internet service returns to its normal performance," Kamil told the state Al-Ahram newspaper.

BBC News

[FaranginPhetch]

Could be as most trasffic is routed thru here then, but last cable break was a couple years ago and was between Japan and Korea that was said was our problem.
But other sites a a tad slower than usual but nothing like this site,, but it is always slower than the rest anyway.
One reason that I never read the whole thread as it takes to much time to advance thru the pages and do not spend to much time here.
Thanks guys..

[Mike]

Apparently there's now been a fourth(!) cable cut in the Middle East, I doubt that's going to help internet speeds any.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...04/2153455.htm

Ships are not responsible for damaging undersea internet cables in the Mediterranean, Egypt's Government says.

Two cables were damaged earlier this week in the Mediterranean sea and another off the coast of Dubai, causing widespread disruption to internet and international telephone services in Egypt, Gulf Arab states and South Asia.

A fourth cable linking Qatar to the United Arab Emirates was damaged on Sunday causing yet more disruptions, telecommunication provider Qtel said.

Egypt's transport ministry said footage recorded by onshore video cameras of the location of the cables showed no maritime traffic in the area when the cables were damaged.

"The ministry's maritime transport committee reviewed footage covering the period of 12 hours before and 12 hours after the cables were cut and no ships sailed the area," a statement said.

"The area is also marked on maps as a no-go zone and it is therefore ruled out that the damage to the cables was caused by ships."

Earlier reports said that the damage had been caused by ships that had been diverted off their usual route because of bad weather.

A repair ship is expected to begin work to fix the two Mediterranean cables on Tuesday.

- AFP

All four cables are in the Middle East, all going down within days of each other and no-one seems to know the reason - seems ripe for conspiracy theories!

I also have the same problem as FiP, using TOT in Bangkok it can take 3 minutes to open a page on this site. Other sites are slower as well, but this one noticeably more so than others :( Hope they get those cables fixed fast!

[khunlungphudhu]

Until the Internet providers in Thailand anti-up with much more bandwidth users in Thailand will continue to suffer the effects of such worldwide events than do those of us fortunate enough to be elsewhere.

[FaranginPhetch]

I still am not sure that those breaks in those cables do in fact effect us.
I know that they are pobly saying that they are, but I also know that years nago when I first started using TTT internet for 335 bath a month unlimited and I couldn't hook to the internet and my mail would not load , we call them at support and they would always tell my wife to shut down for an hour as we were overheating the modem,, then I talked to them and had a little talk, so then they would tell her that we had picked up a Virus and needed to clean up our PC as the fault was ours and not theirs as everything was running beautifully, then with ADSL it was shut down the router or splitter for an hour as we had an older model and it was overheating.
Now for the last year or so they tell her to give them her cell number and they will call back, which they never do.
So I really think that they have a problem, have no idea how to correct it and never will know but still will not admit to not having the brains to fix it..
Have any of you ever had a Thai tell he don't know?? I gotta see that one if you do.

[Richard Barrow]

I haven't noticed anything about speed. Stats at the bottom of each page tell us how quickly the page is called - this "Page generated in 0.94012 seconds with 23 queries". It is loading fast for me.

There are a couple of things that can contribute to slowness. Different locations of servers being used for one site. For example, the Skype image in FiPs posts are being called from the skype server - this is a script that tells people if he is online. If the skype server is slow in responding then it will slow up this page. I have turned that option off now and the image is called locally. Secondly, the banners on the left are being called through a script which again is on another server. If that other server is slow then that can cause this page to open slowly. We will take a look into this further,

[Joshua]

...the banners on the left are being called through a script which again is on another server.

I asked a few members if they seen the change in the advertising system causing any delays. The key to knowing is by making sure your status bar is on in your browser and then trying to browse the forums. The bottom gray bar on your browser will tell what exactly is loading and from where.

Here is a small video explaining the concept. But as can be seen from the video I have no speed issues here in the USA. Again as with all my videos it is most helpful to expand playback to fullscreen.