What Thai boys think about "blond-girls"?

[sakornno]

It's just because blond girls they look like porn star.
But I don't care however they look.

Even though I m thai but living my lifedays in Norway, but ater all my relationship with brown or blond seems normal and kinda boring at last
Not seems excited like the first I got them to be mine.

Big Boob_brown skin__sexy lips like Angelina Julie ( Yeah ) and sexy butt and body = U R WANTED by me!

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[Alias]

Wow, I've been reading this thread for awhile now. Interestingly enough it has digressed from the original question.

First of all, hair color shouldn't really matter. Do Thai guys like white girl? Well, it depends, do you prefer steak, sushi or linguini?

I think most guys like pretty women. How you define "pretty" is strictly a matter of personal opinion.

My last girlfriend was blonde, half Swedish and half English. The long distance commuting eventually killed the three year relationship and has nothing to do with culture differences or background (my work allows me to commute overseas almost on a monthly basis). Her folks loved me and vice versa.

Oh, I'm a Thai guy grew up in California and been living back in Thailand for about 10 years now.

As far as some of the common problems with Thai guy/ white girl relationship that I can see is that not all Thai guys are the same as far as their backgrounds go.

In western culture we do not see class differences but it is definitely there in Thailand and that accounts for most of the problems. I see the same with white guy/ Thai girl relationships also but not so prevelant since Thai female are taught to be more submissive.

There's a huge differences between dating a Thai guy who is from the upper middle class versus dating a Thai guy that sells t-shirts on the beach. I'm not knocking anyone's class status especially since I grew up in the States and one thing I did learn about is equality.

In the States, I can date a waitress from the pizza joint and bring her home to meet mom but that won't work here if I date a waitress in Thailand. Yes, as much as I hate to say it, social status does matter here.

You can believe in love, lust and sex but as much as we like to we can't do that 24/7 and eventually you will actually have to talk and have a normal relationship. That handsome Thai guy who was waiting at the table will have no idea what you are talking about when the subject of politics, ecology etc. (i.e. normal conversation) comes up. He cannot afford to wine you and dine you at the French restaurant (he would be very uncomfortable at such an establishment anyway). You won't see all this until the novelty wears out. Even I, get sick of Thai food and I'm Thai.

And it's all reverse for the white guy/ Thai girl, but since men are dominant in Thai society, it won't be as obvious. That girl you met on Sukhumvit street will go out to the Italian restaurant with you, she won't say it but she won't like it.

Many of my white female friends have fallen in love with the local culture and the "nice" Thai men and some even have children but most eventually went their separate ways. Most western women are independent and eventually the novelty of the "Thai Ways" will wear out. Once that happens, that cultural gap will widen and then comes the obvious.

I'm sorry for my rant but I see it all the time but to answer the original question, yes, I love blondes, but that just me.

[David_Loves_Ubonwan]

As a Farang guy, when I was single I never dated a blonde girl and would never have considered it. But each to their own choice, every guy, whether Thai or not, is different. Just like all girls are different.

David

[yeows]

In modern Thai society, do some Thais marry someone outside their circle? I think there are some unique cases but these are not the norm. For those who do, what are the issues they have to grapple with?

I have heard that Thais marry according to their status but will have another partner outside the marriage whom they truly love. It is probably for an outward show. Could this be true?

[Mel]

Alias, good point thanks

[Alias]

Thais rarely marry outside their status circle, almost never. If you have ever been to a Thai wedding reception you can see that it's all about the bride and groom's parents. It's the one time they get to show off their status to ther peers. Who you are in your social circle depends who is the guest of honor at the reception. If your parents can get a respected elder (Poo Yai) to say a few words follow by three cheers "Chai Yo", then you and your family will have face, "Mee Na Mee Ta". It all about the "guest list".

What I mean is that if your parents can get the Prime Minister to show up at the reception and give a few words and a toast then your social status is secured in the upper echelons.

Therefore that's the main reason why most Thais will not marry outside their status circle. This has nothing to do with race or nationality. Thais will marry people of other races regularly (very unusual for Asian) but the social status of their mate's (foreign) family has to be of equal or better, i.e. Paradorn and Ms Univ., Lookgade, Thai supermodel and some white guy, Pornthip (Ms Univ.) and some white guy etc. Sounds like I'm generalizing but these "white guys" are not just backpackers or guys hanging out at Soi Cowboy or Patong Beach bar beer, they are very well established since these weddings are very well publicized.

That goes for any social circle in Thailand. If you are a bank teller you will not hook up with a go go dancer. If you work at a go go bar, you will not hook up with the tuk tuk driver or the guy selling guavas from the fruit cart. And so on.

If you can understand all that I've just mentioned then you can see why there are so many white guys with Thai girls than white girls with Thai guys. Thai girls will want to marry up the social ladder and it's real easy. Essentially, grab on to any farang, treat him like she would normally treat any guy and the farang will fall in love. And for the white guy, his family doesn't really cares who he marries as long as she's a good person and takes care of him. Since Thailand is a male dominent society, it's a lot easier and expected for the women to be submissive and agree with the man's decisions, at least publicly.

Not so for Thai guys with white girls. He's constantly under watch by his friends, his family, even strangers in public. If she doesn't or refuse to understand him or his surrounding then the relationship is doom from the beginning. Especially if there is the large pre-existing social gap, a college graduate white girl will have a hard time agreeing with the man's decisions if her mate is a Thai guy selling pirated cds on Khao San road.

As far as having a relationship on the side, aka "Meer Noi" (minor wife), that can be with anyone from any social background. Since it's not suppose to be public knowledge, it can cross several social status lines, boundaries, floors and ceilings.

The reason I think I'm able to explain all this is because I travel in many social circles in Thailand. I've hung out with expat friends down at Nana Plaza and been to the Ratchada area with my Thai friends, I grew up westernized in the US and spent part of my youth at one of the royal palaces in BKK. I've dated Thai women from wealthy and not so wealthy families, and dated caucasian women from all walks of life in Europe, US, Hong Kong, Thailand. My sister is also married to a caucasian guy.

Anyhow, I'll get off the soap box now. Kob Khun Krab, I hope I didn't waste too much of your time.

[yeows]

I appreciate what you have shared, Alias. It is a valuable insight into the psyche of Thais.

Hope to read more of your posts.

[Alias]

Thanks, just saying like how I see it. I think I'm just in that unusal position where I can see from both perspective (having a really cool and laid back mother really helps, she raised my sister and I as a single mom).

My mother knew that we knew the where and when of the Thai culture and manners and the fact that I grew up as an American kid. It would not be unusual for me and my sister to sit on the couch with our feet propped on the table at her house and she wouldn't even notice since she knew we'd never do it in the company of any Thais. Even I'm not sure what I am half the time. It's like I'm constantly on the fence and don't know which side I belong to. Not an uneasy feelings by any means just wondering thoughts that occasionally slips in and out.

So I guess I'm both and comfortable with all my surroundings but sometimes I wonder how one side doesn't see it and vice versa.

Some of my relatives seems westernized but still very Thai and very conservative. Some of the farang girls that I've dated seems to assimilate real well and have an open mind about Thai culture but really don't when it comes down to it.

It's funny sometimes just to sit back and watch and asking myself why don't any of them see what I'm seeing.

Anyhow, it's really no big deal. Just funny sometimes when my sister and I sit around and share some of the things that we've seen.

Oh, by the way, both my parents are Thais so I'm not a "Loog Krueng" (eurasian), and sometimes that can work for or against me in the Thai social circle.

[yeows]

Seems like you have the best of both worlds, Alias. Foreign visitors to Thailand rarely get to see the real picture. It is hard to truly understand Thai culture unless we live in Thai society and have Thai friends. As tourists, most of us are exposed to the superficial side of Thai life and culture. Even when we commit faux pas, those around us will be very tolerant and will probably not comment to save us face. Thus we end up back at square one.

Many have said that it is difficult to have a close Thai friend even if we stay in Thailand. If that is true, I can imagine how much tougher it will be for a male foreigner to know a Thai lady and eventually settle down with her and vice versa.

Perhaps the greatest challenge will come when a Thai guy marries a western girl and both have to settle down in Thailand than in a western country.

Sorry, I am off topic.

[Alias]

Many have said that it is difficult to have a close Thai friend even if we stay in Thailand. If that is true, I can imagine how much tougher it will be for a male foreigner to know a Thai lady and eventually settle down with her and vice versa.

Perhaps the greatest challenge will come when a Thai guy marries a western girl and both have to settle down in Thailand than in a western country.

Sorry, I am off topic.

Again, it all depends. There are somethings that I never knew myself and would never know unless the person who witness the mistake was my close relative. One example was when I brought my farang girlfriend to meet some of my extended family. She understood how Thai women should act in front of other Thais, especially close relatives who might be very critical of her and her Thai manners. Like I said earlier, she will always be in the spot light, good or bad.

I used to be a smoker, so after our dinner at my auntie's house, we all had a conversation around the table with some wine. I picked up my cigarette and place it in my mouth and my farang girlfriend proceed to help me light it. My cousin quickly grabbed her hand and told her that a proper lady wouldn't do that. You may place the lighter in front of him but in no way should you light it. I asked why and he told me that that sort of action would cheapen her and frown upon, especially in front of "Poo Yai". Essentially,very unlady-like.

She thought she would be helpful and taking care of "her man". Anyhow, like I said, I was in the company of my relatives so they had no problem letting me and my girlfriend know and I appreciate them for that. And no harm no foul.

That goes for white guys also but not as critical.

As far as challenges in a relationship go, it all depends on the Thai guy/ girl background, upbringing, family and social status. It is difficult to discuss this issue without stepping carefully around the subject. Like what I mentioned a few posts back, westerners have no boundaries when it comes to social status, however, the class system is alive and well in Thailand and we can see it everyday.

Each case is as different as the classes and status themselves.

What I mean is that no one is better than the other but just how everyone else think seems to matter here. Too bad but that also makes Thailand Thailand.

Remind me of a story of when I was waiting for a "Win-Mor-Sai" (motocycle taxi) in front of my condo. So I strike up a normal conversation with one of the riders. He thought I was crazy for engaging him in a conversation. He was very uncomfortable but very polite. He knew where the line was and I didn't care. Remember that I'm Thai, I look it, speak it and sometimes live it. Thais can almost immediately tell what class another Thai belong to by just looking at you.

Just to bring everything back on to the right track as per the topic of thread starter, "Yes, this Thai guy still likes blondes."