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    Re: UK cancels visas of Thaksin and wife

    Democrat confirms revocation of Thaksin passport

    (BangkokPost.com) – Democrat party confirmed that the British government has revoked visas for ex-premier Thaksin Shinawatra and wife Potjaman and banned them from entering Britain on their Thai passports.

    Sirichoke Sopah, spokesman of the shadow cabinet, presented to reporters the notification letter, which was circulated by emails to airlines.

    The letter was signed by a British official at the British embassy in Thailand.

    An official from the Foreign Ministry, meanwhile, said the ministry has not been officially informed about the matter.

    Thanee Thongpakdee, a senior ministry official, said the British government has the right to revoke a visa without clarifying the reasons behind the move.

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    Re: UK cancels visas of Thaksin and wife

    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen Cleary View Post
    Isn't Thaksin however, supposed to be on a diplomatic passport? And diplomats dont need visas, right?

    If Thaksin's not allowed back in The UK, how about his 5million pound house say, in St George's Hill, Surrey? He has other property too, including a 8million pound place in South Kensington.

    What happens in that situation? Rather confused.
    Good point about the Diplomatic Passport. Steve-it is not clear at all.

    As for the property, paradoxically, although the "normal" house market has all but ground to a halt in the UK, luxury properties are still selling-so he might be able to get his money back-and -knowing " ol' squareface" -make a profit too.

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    Re: UK cancels visas of Thaksin and wife

    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen Cleary View Post
    And diplomats dont need visas, right?

    Is that an internationally accepted rule or just a practice in some countries only?

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    Re: UK cancels visas of Thaksin and wife

    Foreign Ministry has been informed about Thaksin's revoked visa

    The British government has informed Thailand's Ministry of Foreign Affairs about the cancellation of visas of former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra and his wife Pojaman, according to MOF.

    Thanee Thongpakdee, deputy spokesman of the ministry, said the the ministry has been informed about the revoked entry visas.

    The confirmation of the Thai side ends the doubt that the report could have been just a rumour.

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    Re: UK cancels visas of Thaksin and wife

    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen Cleary View Post
    Isn't Thaksin however, supposed to be on a diplomatic passport? And diplomats dont need visas, right?
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    A diplomatic passport doesn't give the bearer automatic privileges such as diplomatic immunity.

    It is only a certificate that the bearer have such a status in his home country that he might be eligible for diplomatic status abroad.

    Such a status need to be recognized by the foreign government, without that you are just a normal citizen.

    So even a holder of a diplomatic passport might need a visa even if many countries waive the visa requirement for all holders of diplomatic passports, there are many exceptions. For example UK and US.

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    Re: UK cancels visas of Thaksin and wife

    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen Cleary View Post
    Isn't Thaksin however, supposed to be on a diplomatic passport? And diplomats dont need visas, right?
    Wrong.

    Diplomatic passport

    Issued to diplomats and consuls for work-related travel, and to accompanying dependents. Having a diplomatic passport is not the equivalent of having diplomatic immunity. A grant of diplomatic status, a privilege of which is diplomatic immunity, has to come from the government of the country in relation to which diplomatic status is claimed. Also, having a diplomatic passport does not mean visa-free travel. A holder of a diplomatic passport usually has to obtain a diplomatic visa, even if a holder of an ordinary passport may enter a country visa-free or may obtain a visa on arrival.

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    Re: UK cancels visas of Thaksin and wife

    Wow, now that's a turn up for the books, maybe since the credit crunch and the repeated freezing of Thaksins assets maybe the UK think he is a liability, maybe he put in a claims form for housing benefit, JSA et al...

    Maybe he'll be hounded round SEAsia like Glitter, who knows..

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    Re: UK cancels visas of Thaksin and wife

    To my limited knowledge, the fact of the matter is this. Some countries allow entry without visa to diplomatic passport holders while some other countries do not. I even got the list of countries which allow and which do not.

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    Re: UK cancels visas of Thaksin and wife

    My guess is he'll try to settle in Hong Kong next. After the coup he bought a house there that, at the time, was bought for a record price.
    Since Hong Kong is covered by China's embassy in Bangkok, I don't know how well recieved a big demo outside the Chinese embassy by the PAD would go down.
    Government's tend to be pretty testy when it comes to protests outside Chinese embassies because they don't want to lose business opportunities - as was seen during pro-Tibet protests during the Olympics.

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    Re: UK cancels visas of Thaksin and wife

    ANALYSIS
    Whatever motivated London, it may be big and scary
    By TULSATHIT TAPTIM
    THE NATION ON SUNDAY


    The biggest question is why. For all the uncertainties surrounding Thaksin Shinawatra's immediate future following his visa cancellation by Britain, what baffles everyone most is the real motive of the country praised by the man himself as democratically very mature.

    Why, all of a sudden, did London slam the door on Thaksin and make him suffer the humiliation of a criminal-cum-political-refugee with no place to live?

    The British Embassy would not comment. In fact, the cancellation of Thaksin's and his wife's visas became known through other channels, and embassy insiders said the embassy would issue statements only if it was necessary to respond to reaction from Thaksin or related parties.

    So speculation was rife yesterday. Some observers pointed to his and his wife's criminal convictions, but then again, wasn't the "credibility" of the Thai courts the contentious point here? So why was London so quick to jump to the conclusion that the courts were credible when Thaksin hasn't even had a chance to put up a decent asylum fight yet?

    Some pointed to the "winning-ugly" court ruling on the Ratchadaphisek land case, a verdict that was based purely on three indisputable facts: Thaksin "was prime minister" when his wife "bought" the land, and that "broke" Thai law. The court ignored charges of corruption and conspiracy to reap profits, but this means Thaksin was left with no grounds to challenge the ruling.

    Others believe the visa cancellations were prompted more by political and diplomatic concerns. Some airline sources said that London might have been alarmed by the increasingly apparent tendency of Thaksin to use Britain as a staging ground to launch political activities against his opponents in Thailand. He triggered a major controversy last week by addressing tens of thousands of supporters through a long-distance phone-in from Hong Kong.

    But why the rather rude manner? Yes, Thaksin could have been politely told to leave quietly for not acting like a real persecuted refugee, but there would have been a risk of him mounting a legal campaign in a bid to stay on. Such a campaign, of course, could turn politically and diplomatically very nasty for Britain.

    One airline source went further, saying the highly unusual way of treating someone who had been allowed to live a luxurious life and buy a premium soccer club had been caused by "perhaps something we don't know". Bluntly put, have the British authorities smelt some hanky-panky deals? To start with, Thaksin bought Manchester City with money he never reported having (while he was in Thailand and had to declare his assets).

    Whatever the reason, however, it must be strong enough to outweigh the obvious negatives this shocking visa move carries.

    One thing is clear: Thaksin is fast going from a divisive political figure in his homeland to an international hot potato.

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