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    Re: UK cancels visas of Thaksin and wife

    Britain respects Thai democracy: UK ambassador

    (BangkokPost.com) - British authorities respected Thailand's democracy when considering whether to withdraw former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra's visa, British Ambassador Quinton Quayle affirmed on Monday evening.

    After meeting Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister Sompong Amornvivat for about an hour at the Foreign Ministry, the British ambassador said Britain considered the democratic system of Thailand to maintain the good relations between both countries.

    Britain has always used this practice when considering who can enter or leave the country, Mr Quayle added.

    However, the British ambassador said he has no authority to explain the revocation of Mr Thaksin’s visa. He also refused comment on whether the ousted premier can apply for another UK visa in the future.

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    Re: UK cancels visas of Thaksin and wife

    Bermuda not offer sanctuary to Thaksin

    Bermuda's Premier Ewart Brown has stamped on bizarre, untrue claims in Asian media that he has offered refuge to ex-Thai PM Thaksin Shinawatra who was convicted on corruption charges.

    Newspapers in Thailand have been speculating where Thaksin may head after his British visa was revoked.

    Some Thai press reports claim Bermuda is one of the countries to have offered sanctuary to the former owner of Manchester City football club.

    However Bermuda's Prime Minister Dr. Brown told The Royal Gazette newspaper yesterday that the reports were totally fabricated.

    "I know nothing about it," he said. "It's absolutely not true."

    He dismissed news reports which quoted him as saying, "Its prime minister (Brown) said he was content to help Thaksin because his family used to face injustice of the legal system before (sic)."

    The Times newspaper in the UK said unconfirmed reports suggested Thaksin and his wife had been granted honorary citizenship by the Bahamas.

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    Re: UK cancels visas of Thaksin and wife

    Quote Originally Posted by Khun Don View Post
    The Times newspaper in the UK said unconfirmed reports suggested Thaksin and his wife had been granted honorary citizenship by the Bahamas.
    As citizens of a Commonwealth country, would that mean Thaksin and his wife can then travel back to the UK without needing to get a visa?

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    Re: UK cancels visas of Thaksin and wife

    Theoretically, I think you are right. However, I also think diplomatic pressure/persuasion /requests/whatever from the UK would stop any Commonwealth country with currently good relations with the UK would stop any offer to the Thaksins of citizenship.
    Hmm. maybe he should try Zimbabwe-they would welcome his money!

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    Re: UK cancels visas of Thaksin and wife

    From inside my passport:

    Citizenship and National Status British citizens have the right of abode in the United Kingdom. No right of abode in the United Kingdom derives from the status, as British Nationals, of British Dependent Territories citizens, British Nationals (Overseas), British Overseas citizens, British protected persons and British Subjects.

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    Re: UK cancels visas of Thaksin and wife

    But Thaksin could probably still visit the UK without a visa if he had citizenship of a Commonwealth country in theory. Though in practice he might get stopped by Immigration who would question him on how long he intended to remain in the UK-and maybe deport him.
    I doubt he would want to go on living in the UK now he is not welcome and his business interests are elsewhere.

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    Re: UK cancels visas of Thaksin and wife

    Subject to paragraph 2 below the following persons need a visa for the United Kingdom:

    (a) Nationals or citizens of the following countries or territorial entities:

    Afghanistan
    Albania
    Algeria
    Angola
    Armenia
    Azerbaijan
    Bahrain
    Bangladesh
    Belarus
    Benin
    Bhutan
    Bosnia Herzegovina
    Burkina Faso
    Burma
    Burundi
    Cambodia
    Cameroon
    Cape Verde
    Central African Republic
    Chad
    People's Republic of China (except those referred to in sub-paragraphs 2(d) and (e) of this Appendix)
    Colombia
    Comoros
    Congo
    Cuba
    Democratic Republic of the Congo
    Djibouti
    Dominican Republic
    Ecuador
    Egypt
    Equatorial Guinea
    Eritrea
    Ethiopia
    Fiji
    Gabon
    Gambia
    Georgia
    Ghana
    Guinea
    Guinea Bissau
    Guyana
    Haiti
    India
    Indonesia
    Iran
    Iraq
    Ivory Coast
    Jamaica
    Jordan
    Kazakhstan
    Kenya
    Korea (North)
    Kuwait
    Kyrgyzstan
    Laos
    Lebanon
    Liberia
    Libya
    Macedonia
    Madagascar
    Malawi
    Mali
    Mauritania
    Moldova
    Mongolia
    Morocco
    Mozambique
    Nepal
    Niger
    Nigeria
    Oman
    Pakistan
    Peru
    Philippines
    Qatar
    Russia
    Rwanda
    Sao Tome e Principe
    Saudi Arabia
    Senegal
    Sierra Leone
    Somalia
    Sri Lanka
    Sudan
    Surinam
    Syria
    Taiwan
    Tajikistan
    Tanzania
    Thailand
    Togo
    Tunisia
    Turkey
    Turkmenistan
    Uganda
    Ukraine
    United Arab Emirates
    Uzbekistan
    Vietnam
    Yemen
    Zambia
    Zimbabwe
    The territories formerly comprising the socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia

    (b) Persons who hold passports or travel documents issued by the former Soviet Union or by the former Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia.

    (c) Stateless persons.

    (d) Persons who hold non-national documents.
    But I think anyone on the list of 'persons non grata' can be refused entry.

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    Re: UK cancels visas of Thaksin and wife

    INN explains Thaksin 'asylum' reports
    By KORNCHANOK RAKSASERI
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    INN news agency yesterday insisted it had "sincerely and professionally" reported news to its audience after its report about small countries offering help to former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra were denied and questioned.

    In a statement posted on its website, www.innnews.co.th, INN said it would stick to the standard of good ethics and would not be a tool for anybody.

    INN issued the statement after the media questioned the reported offer to Thaksin which turned out to be a hoax.

    While it accepted the scrutiny and would reconsider its reporting process, the INN explained how it got the news about the offers to Thaksin.

    The INN earlier reported that several countries like the Bahamas and Bermuda had offered asylum and positions to Thaksin while living in exile.

    But the governments of both countries denied the report.

    Thai media published articles questioning INN's news sources after they failed to verify the INN report. They also questioned the timing of its release which coincided with Thaksin's movements and statements in the past few months.

    During his address on November 1, Thaksin told his supporters that many countries had offered him shelter and positions.

    According to INN, the questionable reports were found accidentally by an INN reporter while searching for another topic on the Internet.

    INN said the first piece, a story headlined as "Bermuda Prime Minister invites Thaksin into exile", published on August 22, was found accidentally when INN's reporter searched for news about a Bermudan football player of the Manchester City Football Club.

    The reporter double checked the information from an encyclopaedia on the Internet about the country's information and its prime minister's name. They matched, so the reporter decided to translate the story into the agency's database.

    Since Thaksin's movements have been a source of interest to Thai people, INN decided to publish the stories to its audience.

    "Due to curiosity about Thaksin's extradition process being an issue at that time, INN's foreign news reporter searched information from prominent media like CNN, BBC, AP, AFP and visited the websites in the Bahamas and Bermuda where stories were found before. The website of ZNS Bahamas, which was not being upgraded at that time, had a piece of news published on October 16 saying Bahamas' prime minister was seeking ways to help Thaksin. It was a 15 day old story but the reporter saw it interesting and decided to translate it," INN said to clarify how it got the story headlined as "Bahamas asks UK not to send Thaksin back to Thailand" which it published on October 31.

    The website of ZNS Bahamas has been posted as "being upgraded" for more than a week.

    Pirongrong Ramasoota Rananand, head of Chulalongkorn University's Department of Journalism, said when the media stressed the timeliness of news reporting, they might have compromised the accuracy of the news or reliability of news sources.

    "Now is an era of information overload. Media professionals as gatekeepers or mediators must be more careful than in the past," she said. "The rule is that check, check, check and check. The media must verify the information until they are sure it is correct."

    Pradit Ruangdit, secretary-general of Thai Journalists Association, yesterday said the issue was interesting as it scrutinised media professionals. However, the association would respect the rights of all media involved and would wait and see INN's proof of its news sources.

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    Re: UK cancels visas of Thaksin and wife

    BETWEEN THE LINES
    Falsehood can't alter the truth
    By The Nation

    The latest reports about exiled former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra's being wooed by other small and poor countries are becoming quite clear - the stories are almost certainly a hoax.

    The Bahamas and Bermuda have denied granting any privileges to, or welcome for, Thaksin.

    "As far as I know, I am not aware of any request, nor has any honorary citizenship been granted to [Shinawatra]," Brent Symonette, deputy prime minister and minister of foreign affairs told The Nassau Guardian.

    "I know nothing about it [the suggestion Thaksin could be headed there]. It's absolutely not true," Bermuda's Premier Ewart Brown told Bermuda's The Royal Gazette.

    INN news agency was the first to report the stories about Thaksin. Since August, INN reported 13 stories about Thaksin on its website. All were positive news about the absconding former PM. However, when many countries denied their involvement, and some Thai media raised questions about the reports, INN issued a statement clarifying about the source of its information. However, some doubts remain.

    Irrespective of whether Thaksin spread the stories in his interest, or others did it for him, the motive behind fooling Thais was to promote the image of how the fugitive was important in the eyes of other countries, if not in Thailand. Through such exposure he might arouse sympathy among Thais as well.

    Choosing INN news agency as his mouthpiece was cunning though deceiving. INN has an audience of millions who would have received these Thaksin reports through SMS and radio news. And subscribers to SMS news and radio listeners don't bother too much about details. Brief news items are enough to start discussions among colleagues and friends. They are not normally curious where the news comes from or whether it is true or not. Not infrequently, SMS reports are proved to be inaccurate.

    Thaksin is a person who usually plays his games at the expense of others.

    These stories about him have deceived Thais, who believed them. The falsehoods have also damaged the reputation of the countries, who it was falsely claimed had offered him refuge.

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    Re: UK cancels visas of Thaksin and wife

    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen Cleary View Post
    Isn't Thaksin however, supposed to be on a diplomatic passport? And diplomats dont need visas, right?
    The Swedish Labour Minister Sven Otto Littorin was refused entry to Egypt when he and his gf arrived this Monday and was forced to return to Sweden.

    The reason is that he traveled on his diplomatic passport and Egypt require visa in advance for all diplomatic passport holders.

    Normal passport holders can get a visa on arrival like in Thailand
    Last edited by Sved; 25-12-08 at 06:41 AM. Reason: Must learn to quote

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