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    teenage fights

    HI

    Just a question about Issan youth. Are fights among young teenage teams "gangs" becomming more prevelant or has it always been going on?

    It is the season in Issan for all the free Gov. concerts My wife was talking with family last night seems her son and friends went to nearby town for concert. but fight broke out and they all had to run and hide in the woods until morning before they could come back home.

    I know last yr at songkran I saw fights among drunken teenager's
    at small local festivals. I am aware there is a major drinking problem
    but as in any country youth and alcohol does not mix

    My wife says they don't bother adults it is just among the teenagers.

    what are the Issan experts views on this.

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    Re: teenage fights

    I don't claim to be an expert, but I have spent a fair amount of time in Issaan over the last 15 years or so. Near our Buriram house there is a temple which each year holds one of the biggest temple fairs in the district. We try to get up to Buriram when it is on. For some years now groups of youths have been causing trouble at the fair, leading to an increase in the number of security guards present. The last time we were there the guards were not the usual middle aged รปภ guards, but many young military looking guys in excellent physical condition, dressed in black, patrolling the fair in groups of 3 or 4. I also noticed that there are no longer stalls selling all kinds of knives, large and small, locals tell me that a fight broke out between rival gangs and they found a ready source of weapons at these stalls.

    IMHO fights between groups of youths are getting more prevalent in Bangkok too. They rarely make the newspapers unless someone is killed, but they are often reported on late night radio.

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    Yeah, seen alot of drunk teens getting in fights here too. And I still remember their favourite song, where they all rise up and put their fists into the air.


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    Re: teenage fights

    I also don't think it's specific to Isaan. I've never seen it happen there tho from what i've have seen in Asia among youth it's usually alcohol fuelled and either something to do with disputes about girlfriends or some "gang" feud. And by ''gang'' I don't mean a mafia thing, just something like that childish teenage thing. Maybe not unique to Asia, Isaan or Thailand.

    One thing someone told me is that, whereas in the West there is an issue about rivals having one-on-one fights and there being some kind of honour in that, among Thai youths it is OK for a guy who has a grudge to bandy half a dozen mates around to beat his enemy up and that is a source of pride, whereas he might be seen as a coward in the West for not fighting his own battle.

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    Re: teenage fights

    Unfortunately Sparky it seems like young people in the U.S. do not exactly fight fair either. Unless it's one of those 'staged' fights seen everywhere on the internet, gangsters will jump all over one or two guys without regards to fairness.

    Boys will always be boys but one of the things I've always admired about Thailand is how well mannered the youth are, and respect towards elders. Maybe it has to do with the Buddhist way but it is very nice. Where I am from young people just have no respect for their elders. It's not all like that but where I am from young people have a chip on their shoulders, always looking to start trouble and fights, fueled by all that stuff they watch on t.v. and listen to on the radio.

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    Re: teenage fights

    Before I was married and even after, when we were in the wife's village in Ubon she sometimes tried to stop me from going to the temple fairs etc. because she was worried about potential violence. This is going back 20 years or so when I was in my early 20s, and she thought some of the local youths might fancy taking on a farang of similar age. We usually went along anyway and nobody bothered me, but there were plenty of fights to see. And these days it's pretty much the same. I don't think it's any worse but in the wife's village they try and sort things out through the puu yai and kamnan without going to the police.

    In Bangkok, the gangs and technical school students have been fighting for decades. There's a well-known film on the subject called "2499 อันธพาลครองเมือง" (2499 antapan krong muang) loosely based on a true story from the 1950s. Again, over the years from personal experience of seeing warring gangs in parts of Bangkok and Samutprakan, I wouldn't say that it seems to have got worse or better. Again going back at least 10 years, I once came out of Central Bangna and heard a loud 'pop'. People started diving for cover and then I realized there was a technical student on a motorbike with a gun pointed at another group at the bus stop. The gunman sped off with rivals jumping on their own bikes in hot pursuit. I've also seen guns in use around the market area in Paknam.

    Though I wonder if perhaps, as seems to be the case in western countries, the kids are getting involved at a younger age, as a couple of times recently I've come across quite young groups running around with belts drawn on the road between Sanphawut and Imperial/ Big C Samrong. None of the other weapons you see with the older gangs though.

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    Re: teenage fights

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky View Post
    One thing someone told me is that, whereas in the West there is an issue about rivals having one-on-one fights and there being some kind of honour in that, among Thai youths it is OK for a guy who has a grudge to bandy half a dozen mates around to beat his enemy up and that is a source of pride, whereas he might be seen as a coward in the West for not fighting his own battle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BUCKY View Post
    In Asia, we are taught a single chopstick will break easily whereas if you hold a bundle of them together, they won't break as easily. Thus, teamwork.
    That's certainly better than getting your head kicked in.

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    Re: teenage fights

    I to have spent time in Buriram over the new year period.Personaly I have not seen any problems,but friends of mine have and guns have been fired,and young people have been seen fighting. This year we went to a village temple fair and although we witnessed no trouble my wife voiced concerns about going.Sometimes inter village rivalry and old disputes are sorted out at these fairs.The main reason is the village youth are at full strength because many have returned home from their jobs outside of isaan.Usually at sonkran and new year. I would go to a village fair again but would avoid the big one i Buriram at night time. Bullets are indiscriminate,maybe just wrong place one time.

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    Re: teenage fights

    Quote Originally Posted by pbee View Post
    I to have spent time in Buriram over the new year period.Personaly I have not seen any problems,but friends of mine have and guns have been fired,and young people have been seen fighting.... ....Bullets are indiscriminate,maybe just wrong place one time.
    There were 1564 reports of gunfire in Dallas on New Year's Eve between the 11:00pm and 1:00am time frame. Universal?

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