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How to differentiate between KEU and PEN
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    How to differentiate between KEU and PEN

    any ideas?
    from what i understand it is words TO BE.. is pen for living things and keu for non living things?
    please list examples.
    thanks!

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    Re: How to differentiate between KEU and PEN

    Kheu = "about"
    eg: "kheu arai"? = "Whats this about"?

    Pben = "to be" or "is"
    eg: "Khao pben baa" = "He/she is crazy"

    Thats my understanding of it anyway
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    Re: How to differentiate between KEU and PEN

    gìeow = hook, catch, cling, hold fast, reap
    - ǡ = hook each other's little finger
    - Ǣ = reap an ear of paddy

    Ǣͧ, §, Ǿѹ, ǡѺ = relate to, link to, connect, involve, concern, about
    In many cases Ǣͧ, §, Ǿѹ, or ǡѺ are shorten to ""
    - (ǡѺ) áѹ = What about it.
    - (§) Ѻ? = What does it refer to?
    - ѹ (Ǣͧ, Ǿѹ) = I do not relate to this case.

    bpen = live, to be, become, etc. (a lot of meaning and using)
    - ѧ = These fish are still live.
    - 繴 = He is an actor.
    - ѹ = I have a fever
    - ҡ¡繴 = The bad becomes good.
    - = never mind
    - 繵 = to have the advantage

    Thus using "" and "" do not depend on "living things" or "non living thing".

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    Re: How to differentiate between KEU and PEN

    Quote Originally Posted by Zea View Post
    gìeow = hook, catch, cling, hold fast, reap
    - ǡ
    Hey Zea,
    I don't think the OP was referring to I think he/she was meaning (not sure if I've spelled that correctly).

    Maybe the OP can clear this up?
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    Re: How to differentiate between KEU and PEN

    The OP was meaning



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    Re: How to differentiate between KEU and PEN

    has nothing to do with living or non-living things.

    pen = "to be" in a general sense
    keu = "to be" in a more strict sense, being equal

    then you also have as in which I can translate with an exact the same expression in my language, but i don't know in English. In English would be something like "namely" / "I mean" / "it is to say"

    --> what's with him ? What's wrong with him ? ....
    Ҥ ---> who IS he ???


    Another example : say that a teacher wants to explain something about physics, economics, whatever, and would ask

    "What is physics/economy/...?"
    than kue is used :
    xxxxx

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    Re: How to differentiate between KEU and PEN

    Sorry for my mistake, perhaps my vision are tired LOL.

    keu = to be, mean, equal to, namely, for example, such as, like
    - Ҥͼ骹㹡觢ѹ = He is the winner in this competition.
    - ҹ = It is only you.
    - šСͺ¸ҵؾ鹰ҹ 4 Թ = Our world consist of 4 basic elements like soil, water, wind, and fire.
    - ǧ٤ͪͺǤ١ = Idiom "Old man with snakes on his head" means an old man who likes to flirt very young girls.
    - ? = What does it mean? What is it about?
    - ...... = Um...I mean...you know...... (speaker feels bashful, no meaning)

    Summary: "" and "" do not depend on "living things" or "non living thing".

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    Re: How to differentiate between KEU and PEN

    thanks, i was refering to keu and bpen.

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