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    Does any one here have any knowledge of the above or have any relatives who does?

    I have the opportunity to take over about 40 heads of almost adult cattle for 140,000 from a close friend of my fiancee. They are supposed to reach adult-size (good enough for sale) in about 3 months time. Is this a good price? What is the typical purchase price of a calf? Also what is a typical selling price for 1 adult cow in Thailand?

    Further, is it difficult to move the cows from Isaan to Phayao or Phrae? Would there be acclimatization issues for the cattle?

    I am getting interested in this industry. Does anyone share similar interest? Any good stories to tell or horror ones?

    Would really appreciate any input.
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    I don't know nothing about cattling in Thailand, can your friend tell you nothing about prices etc.?
    I think you can start with the Department of Livestock Development (DLD):
    http://www.dld.go.th/webenglish/index.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (dirk3 @ June 25 2005,10:32)]I don't know nothing about cattling in Thailand, can your friend tell you nothing about prices etc.?
    I think you can start with the Department of Livestock Development (DLD):
    http://www.dld.go.th/webenglish/index.html
    Thanks but it seems that the site does not really offer me much help . Actually what is happening is that my tirak and I are looking at some of the options available to us as I conside moving to join her in Thailand on a permanent basis. I had a dream to "retire in a farm" many years ago when I visited some cattle farms in Perth and the idea had been "dormant" in my mind until recently when the opportunity came about as a childhood friend of my tirak offered us 50 heads of almost fully grown cattle for take-over at a very good price (a lot less than 300,000) as she is going to relocate to (of all places) Australia as soon as her visa is done (almost now) and it was to be like her wedding present to us. She is going to join her bf in Australia and he don't mind her to passing the cows to my tirak at a low price, cos they dun need the money.

    Haha, never imagine this old idea to pop up again and oppportunity from the woman I love too! She had a (nice) shock when I told her about this dream after she had brought this opportunity to my attention, wondering if I would ever consider farming! So we had more in common than we thought, as she goes back to her roots and I come face-to-face with a dream I thought I had to abolish . Maybe this Cowboy finally met his Cowgirl. What is stopping us now is ready cash on hand as most of my funds are now locked up in longer term stuff, plus to be put into a farm land we are looking at. I hope to find get a loan and am willing to offered a 20% (pa) interest as I will be able to sell off the cattle at a good profit within 4 months (at 10,000 per head in E-sarn, & more in Phayao/Chiangrai). Anyone who has cash to spare and interested in a 20% pa return over 6 months? Please message me.

    We also have an opportunity to take over a Lumyai (Longan) farm
    at a good price and we are particularly keen cos it is next to her mum's own farm in Phayao. I am considering Dragon Fruit or Aloe Vera farming if Lamyai is not the best crop to grow.
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    Any specific info on the above is appreciated. Its rathere amazng thst the moment I open myself up to being part the argricultural industry in Thailand, opportunities I never knew existed just came up. I plan to infuse technlogy into the traditional methods being used.



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    Personally I don't go into any business unless I know the IN's and out's of it. It is so easy to get ripped off by ignorance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (paul_au @ July 07 2005,04:08)]Personally I don't go into any business unless I know the IN's and out's of it. It is so easy to get ripped off by ignorance.
    I know what u mean. But if everybody thinks this way, nothing new will ever happen. Have you ever been in frontierland?

    I myself have done somethings where nobody has tried before and they turned out to be successful. Unfortunately the companies that reaped these successes were not mine

    Anyway nothing ventured nothing gained. Buying and selling cattle for now is the 1st thing we will do, cos there is no reason for her friend and her bf (also Paul, but a very nice one and he's my personal friend too) to rip us off.
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    Hi Thanchart,

    I don't like to be the bearer of bad news... but agricultural practices, including farming, are some of the professions prohibited to foreigners by royal decree.

    This is not to say that you can't do it; merely that you are facing additional risks if you do.

    Best of luck.

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    Siam Jai's right. All that investment would have to go in a Thai name!

    $140,000, that's a lot of cash. Could you honestly trustl anyone let alone just a Thai with that amount?

    If you've that kind of money i'd say it would be best to start a legal business.

    Why does the guy want to sell them to you when there are plenty of locals to sell too?

    I've personally known a lot of foreigners who have at the end of the day been ripped-off after entering a business even a business proposed by their Thai wife (actually plenty of those!!)

    Be careful.
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    Having owned successful business's, If you have experience and knowledge in a particular type of business you can take some risk with a lot of money. But my advise in starting out in a business that you have never operated before, is to do your research, then to start small and then grow, after you have gained knowledge in that industry and Thai business practices in general, only invest what you can afford to lose, this way you can get experience. If you wanted to go into cattle, start small, just buy maybe 2 head of cattle just to get the experience and knowledge of the business after selling these 2 head at market, calculate the real costs and profit, including the value of your own labor, then if you have been successful in making a profit, you can next time magnify your investment with 40 head of cattle to magnify your investment return. Always make a business plan, and remember there are always variables in business, the price you get at market this year maybe inflated and next year maybe less, so always allow enough cash flow to cover the unexpected variables, like market conditions, drought, interest rates, cost of labor ect.
    Personally I have be ripped of by friends in business, my advise is to never trust any one, as even friends in business can some times be unwilling porn's in some one else's unscrupulous schemes. Hopefully you can read and talk Thai, as foreigners are often targeted for rip of schemes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (stevesuphan @ July 07 2005,18:38)]Siam Jai's right. All that investment would have to go in a Thai name!

    $140,000, that's a lot of cash. Could you honestly trustl anyone let alone just a Thai with that amount?

    If you've that kind of money i'd say it would be best to start a legal business.

    Why does the guy want to sell them to you when there are plenty of locals to sell too?

    I've personally known a lot of foreigners who have at the end of the day been ripped-off after entering a business even a business proposed by their Thai wife (actually plenty of those!!)

    Be careful.
    Maybe I should clarify here. MY tirak and I are working towards getting married and we are looking at the options that can allow me live with her in Thailand (our preference). We are aware that any land (or whatever) bought will be in her name. In fact we already have a small plot of land (under her name) in Phrae and it is next to her granny's home. Again we bought it for a good price cos we did it at the right time when the seller needs cash fast and we are able to get a much better price as we paid for it as a lump sum payment upfront versus what the other neighbours can offer - installments. We are discussing selling it if it makes sense as Phayao is a better place to us, plus I really like what I see about that land.

    We are not talkng about US$140,000. I am not sure how u got that figure. Its no where near that at all. Also the person selling the cattle is her childhood friend. Her Aussie bf (also our friend) wants her to go join him i Australia as soon as her visa is done, and he does not mind her giving the cattle away if she wanted to (wish she would do that ). Everything seems in order now.

    I am aware that there have been cases of rip-offs as well as successes, I have seen both with my own eyes. As to what kind of busness, this is one of the options I really like and will consider. Cos I spent some time in sort of a pig farm when I was young. And she grew up in one.

    In any biz startup there has to be some risks, and I am aware of the risk I am taking. In the worse case, I lose it all. In the best scenario, I will be able to do what I want with the woman I love. She has been thru hard times with me, and no, money is not what she is after. If she is, she wouldn't be choosing me and this route, cos it does mean a busier if not harder life for her. She had better options if she just wants money and an easy life. Having seen the best and worst of urban life (especially in Singapore), when the jobless literally starve, I appreciate what I saw in her mums storeroom - 1 years supply of rice. Plus vegetables they can get off the fields, and frogs they catch for free, pigs they rear as pets and food, etc. That to me is a form of social security in itself.

    Of course course my relentless drive to do the same things, but better than those around me will never die, in addition to the many new ways I would find, being me.



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