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And I thought I'd seen it all!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    shocked And I thought I'd seen it all!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Well what with the new Siam Paragon opening and the aquarium in the basement I got to thinking about the features that Malls in Bkk have.
    There is The Mall in Bangkhae with the water park on the roof. Central World Plaza had the ice rink 'till it closed down.
    Now my girlfriend told me in Pinklao Pata mall there is a zoo on the roof!!
    I had to go and check this out for myself. Going up the escalators of this seemingly normal, aging not very good mall I thought "No way is there a zoo up there" But just as I was about to go back down I saw a sign saying Pata zoo floor 6+7, I had to check it out.
    I was a bit loathe to pay the 200B entrance, Dusit Zoo is less than 100B and I thought what can you possibly keep on a roof?
    But curiosity got me and a few other cats by the look of it. The 6th floor is populated by all kinds of snake but mainly Reticulated Pythons (some monsters), Asian Cobras, and couple of Rattlesnakes, then there are some monitor lizards and turtles, frogs, crabs, scorpions. Going up to the 7th floor however, the roof, I could not believe my eyes. Up there there are Parrots, lots, Flamingos, uncaged, goats and sheep and rabbits and stuff, Penguins???
    Then there are the BIG animals,Porcupines,little Cats OrangUtan, Gorilla, Chimps, Asiatic Brown Bear, Malayan Sun Bear, Mandrill, lots of little monkeys and even 2 Tigers. Its one of the most depressing sights and features I've seen in a mall. I know Thai people have no regard whatsoever for their wildlife whether in the wild or captivity, even Dusit Zoo is terrible and anyone who wants to argue just has to look at the elephants on display there. Thailands symbolic animal in a concrete cell chained and left to go mental.
    I only hope that the animals all die soon and are not replaced with any others (most are past rehabilitating and a dignified death would be a blessing), though thats just wishfull thinking I believe. They are locked in concrete cells with no other stimulus than to pace to and fro for their entire existence. Rumour has it that a few years ago there was a fire and some animals perished then, I mean how can you rescue a bloody tiger from a fire when it is 7storeys off the ground.
    I have worked in zoos in the past, most notably in the role of environmental enhancer, whereby you cannot change the size of the enclosure but you can improve the lifestyle. I am not against zoos and their principle, if we want to destroy the world then it is up to us to look after the flora and fauna that is left behind. I just think that this takes zoos back 100yrs or more.
    I won't go on but this has to be the worst feature I've seen in a shopping mall

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    Is it a temporary zoo or a permanent one ?
    U got ur point about no way for the animals to escape when there is fire.

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    Oh its permanent, they have a picture history of one of the Orang Utans who it seems was born there and has now "celebrated" his 15th birthday. All the animals seem to be well established at being bored or mental

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    ARE YOU SERIOUS? This is HORRIBLE! I feel so bad for those animals. Animals should be in the wild, never locked up. The last time I went to the zoo was years ago with my 9th grade high school class. And I have not gone since, I can't believe that people enjoy looking at animals locked up in cells. It just frustrated me to see it. And this is in America, where they have 'save the rainforest' signs up everywhere. The environment these animals were kept in were great, but they were still locked up. Compared to the zoo on the 6th and 7th floor of the mall in thailand, these animals had it good. How can they allow a zoo to be built on the 6th and 7th floor of a mall?

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    Yes all animals need a reasonable environment to live in, Zoo's are a necessary evil, to promote the need to protect wild life habitat and to protect endangered species from extinction, but this zoo is clearly, exploiting animals for profit, with out to much regard to animal welfare.
    You also have to remember, humans can also be treated just the same in Thai prisons, living out the rest of there lives in a small cells, so when human life means little, so what can you expect, for the life of animals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paul_au
    Yes all animals need a reasonable environment to live in, Zoo's are a necessary evil, to promote the need to protect wild life habitat and to protect endangered species from extinction, but this zoo is clearly, exploiting animals for profit, with out to much regard to animal welfare.
    You also have to remember, humans can also be treated just the same in Thai prisons, living out the rest of there lives in a small cells, so when human life means little, so what can you expect, for the life of animals.

    I see a big difference in between locking up a criminal and locking up an endangered animal. But I won't bother explaining, since most people can already make out what the big difference is.

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    Its true Thais have no respect at all for the environment, last year they caught the biggest freshwater fish ever, a monster mekong catfish that weighed in at over 1600lbs, imagine how old that beast was but then think how many yampla duk foo you could cook. It was caught in Isaan so something that size would feed so many people.
    Before that a Saras Crane was seen in Thailand, for the first time in over 40yrs, birdwatchers came in their droves only to see it gunned down by a wellmeaning local, who didn't want to kill it only to wing it so he could care for it.
    Goto JJ market and pick up a stingray if you like or those weird littlr squirrel things, or I'm sure if you spoke to the right person and flashed enough cash maybe a tiger or an elephant.
    Go to Chiang Mai night safari if there are any animals left alive, thankfully they took off the bushmeat menu due to public outcry.
    I understand desperate people will go to any lengths for food. But I think most Thais exploit animals for avarice.
    And no I don't think they see any difference between criminal and animal, they both eat brown rice.

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    Everyday Life in Pata Zoo

    The zoo was originally opened in 1984 and the zoo's first attraction was Bwana The Tobacco Smoking Gorilla. The origins of Bwana are very hazy indeed but certain agencies say she was smuggled in illegally!

    Here is a picture of the not-so-happy-looking Bwana banged up in her Pata Cage!



    Unfortunately, 6 of the rare animals perished in a fire in 1992. Reports heard that the staff just couldnt find the keys to unlock the cages!

    Many authorities have expressed concern for the well-being of the animals and their living conditions. The place has been closed down several times over the years for inspections.

    Pls see the pics below and judge for yourself.....





    But alas........

    In February 2004, local Bang-Plad district officials inspected the zoo following public complaints. Amazingly, they saw no problems. According to the 28 February issue of the Nation,

    Officials of Bangkok's Bang Plad district rushed to once-popular Pata Zoo yesterday following complaints that animals there were ailing and being kept in poor conditions. But they found none sick or ill housed. District office director Wiboon Noppakhun and Bang Plad councillor Jakkaphan Pornnimit led the inspection of the zoo on the upper floors of the Pata department store near the Pinklao Bridge. Contrary to complaints, they found no animals in poor health or being kept in foul-smelling conditions. The zoo was once popular with star attractions like penguins and bicycle-riding orangutans. The officials acted after zoo visitors snapped pictures of what they claimed were sick animals and posted them on the Internet, urging the facility's closure.
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    i just hope they had planned the zoo on the roof when they built the fundations of the building. Without counting the animals, elephants who know?, the weight supporting the structure has probably changed. Everybody know what's happen to a mall in Seoul....
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    Atalderic!!!! Welcome home! I am so happy to see you again, it has been so long!

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