๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝาง แบบ ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝอน and more random rabblings

[Flammie]

I have a couple of questions and no thai could ever explain the difference to me.

So i was like: yeah so i can use this one too right?
Thai: yes
Me: Okay so this _____ would be correct too right?
Thai: no
Me: but they where the same you said?
Thai: Yes

...

Ok... I know we all have been in situations like this and I am very happy I found this forum for my everyday random questions.. so here I go:

When do I use: ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝาง and when do I use แบบ and what is the difference? And what is the exception in using them? Same goes with ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝอน. I know it all means something like : Like/style/ but yeh... there must be some sort of an explanation behind it.

Same goes for:

๏ฟฝาก ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ (if)

and same goes for the english "for"

๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ - ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝับ - ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ (sometimes ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ indicates for as well)

If somebody could give me some neat examples and maybe an explanation I would be kinda happy Somehow I always use them right but I never know why but I just copy phrases I guess... BUt there must be a reason why right?

Thanks in advance
Cheerio

[Pailin]

For ๏ฟฝาก ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ (if) this thread might help.

[Flammie]

Thanks a lot for that link I am sorry but I am new here so I didn't know such thread excisted

Thanks a billion and that helped me out about ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ and ๏ฟฝาก

[Pailin]

I also found this thread for ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝาง แบบ

Can you explain this scenario a bit more? It's a little confusing with out the blank filled in...

So i was like: yeah so i can use this one too right?
Thai: yes
Me: Okay so this _____ would be correct too right?
Thai: no
Me: but they where the same you said?
Thai: Yes

[Flammie]

The blank could be anything.

Thais often say it's the same and when you put that certain word to use all of the sudden it is not possible using the word in that way.

The blank stands for a random word that is supposed to be the same as another word

Sorry for making u feel confused hehe

[Flammie]

Thanks for the link btw... it is really helpful

[belfastish]

hi
sorry my thai computer just broke so i cant write in thai.
with for,peua /sam rap
the difference is,with sam rap its when you are giving something or someone gives you,for example pom seu nee sam rap khun na khrup,i buy this for you,is this for me etc
peua is used with for as a sentence add,example i need a book for my study

hope this helps

[Flammie]

Originally Posted by belfastish

hi
sorry my thai computer just broke so i cant write in thai.
with for,peua /sam rap
the difference is,with sam rap its when you are giving something or someone gives you,for example pom seu nee sam rap khun na khrup,i buy this for you,is this for me etc
peua is used with for as a sentence add,example i need a book for my study

hope this helps

I also heard ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝับ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ and that doesn't really indicate giving something to someone right? I think in this phrase it means "as for" or something like that.

And when do you use ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ and ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝับ because you can use ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ too when giving something to someone right? (๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ per example is also a giving to phrase and there are many more examples).
Now that I think about it: it sounds like ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝับ is used to indicate something(a thing/present/action/person whatever) is meant for something/someone.

I understood ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ means something like "for the sake of" -including some sort of sacrifice but I am not sure about that... I always hear it being used that way at least;

per example some (๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ) phrases

- Everything I do I do it for you
- I will move to bangkok just to see you

Another problem I have is the word "thing" could be ๏ฟฝอง ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝาง ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ and some other things... how (the heck )can I seperate that and use all of them correctly? there must be a difference right

And with "kind/style" there is also the word ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ beside the regular แบบ ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝาง etc... When do I use that one as opposed to using แบบ or ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝาง?

I think sometimes thai is very confusing haha but I think this sort of material would be pretty useful to master Maybe I am just overthinking that which is not important

Thanks for all the help and contribution so far.. When i figure everything out -with help of you guys- I will make a nice sheet about all of this so everyone can remember this stuff by heart! :p